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		<title>Renovating In France &#8211; Learn French, Save 10,000!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a true story about renovating in France and how learning to speak  a few French phrases can save you thousands and thousands of dollars.</p>
<p>This  concerns some friends of mine who are renovating an old French  farmhouse. It&#8217;s a &#8220;longere&#8221; to be precise, which roughly translated  means &#8220;long house&#8221;. Way back [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: #000080;"><strong>Here&#8217;s a true story about renovating in France and how learning to speak  a few French phrases can save you thousands and thousands of dollars.</strong></span></p>
<p><a href="http://la-fermette.com"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-260" title="Renovating in France" src="http://frenchlife4real.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Lesgermains.jpg" alt="" width="350" height="242" /></a>This  concerns some friends of mine who are renovating an old French  farmhouse. It&#8217;s a &#8220;<em>longere</em>&#8221; to be precise, which roughly translated  means &#8220;long house&#8221;. Way back when it was first built, several hundred  years ago, what farmers would do was to build themselves a house and  then just add bits on the end when they had a need. Frequently that was  more space for goats, sheep, pigs or cows. An extra room would be added  to suit whatever animals were going in. If it was for a growing family  the room was made a bit better quality &#8211; but not much!</p>
<p>It is all  on one level. Upstairs was for hay or grain &#8211; which also did a fair job  of insulating. Walls were built from local stone &#8211; a couple of feet or  more thick. No foundations of course, just built on the ground. With  walls that thick they hardly move in centuries, and as long as the roof  is in good condition these are prime French renovation material.</p>
<p>These  old French farmhouses usually don&#8217;t have much in the way of sanitation.  Often just a soak-away &#8211; which is basically a hole in the ground. If  you want to renovate you need to put in a modern system or you don&#8217;t get  planning permission. Only sensible really.</p>
<p>Mains drainage is  usually out of the question because these old French farmhouses are  usually in the middle of a field. What you have to get is a septic tank  system called a &#8220;<em>fosse septique</em>&#8220;. A three or four thousand liter tank  (around a thousand gallons US) takes all the household water and there&#8217;s  also a sand and gravel filtration that handles run-off. This is  eventually pumped into the nearest ditch. It&#8217;s not drinking water  quality but it&#8217;s fairly clean.</p>
<p>Anyway, back to the story. As is  recommended with any renovating in France, my friends got three quotes.  The first guy wanted 16,500 Euros which was thought a bit high, but they  waited for the remainder of the prices. The second came in at 9,000  Euros. The third, a comparatively low 6,500 Euros &#8211; a ten thousand Euro  difference. That&#8217;s a lot of money in any currency!</p>
<p>Now my friends  had gone to the trouble of talking to several French people, including  the son of an acquaintance who worked for the water board (and who  helped with the plans). Each company was given exactly the same full  specification. What might have happened if they had not spoken some  French? They were not fluent at the time but they took on the challenge.  I know people in that situation who would have just taken the first  quote because it was easiest &#8211; and would have been ten grand out of  pocket!</p>
<p>The strangest thing happened on the day of the  installation. The builder who had given the cheaper quote turned up to  start work, bringing an expert with him to help. The &#8220;expert&#8221; was the  guy who had given the first quote of 16,500 Euros &#8211; but apparently was  more than prepared to do the work for the builder for 6,500 &#8211; or in fact  less if you consider that the builder would probably have made  something.</p>
<p>Top tip if you are considering renovating in France?  Well it has to be to learn some French. If it cost you a hundred dollars  to save 10,000 I would say it was money well spent!</p>
<p>By the way, my friends are Bob Beacham and Xandra Veal. They&#8217;re in the process of renovating their longere and turning it into a comfortable home plus a three bedroom holiday gite. If you want to keep an eye on how they are getting along (and maybe get a discount if you want to stay in the Loire valley) visit <a title="French Loire Valley gite" href="http://la-fermette.com" target="_blank"><strong>La-Fermette</strong></a>.</p>
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